John Dillery, Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho, with an afterword on Demetrius. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press, , Pp. Book review of Dillery (J.) Clio’s other sons: Berossus and Manetho, with an afterword on Demetrius. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press. An Opportunity: Hellenization and World History. Something obviously very big happened in the history of the world in the Hellenistic period.

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The maxims and accompanying epigram were put up in the sanctuary of the city founder, Cineas. What is clear is that the form of writing he used was dissimilar to actual Babylonian literature, writing as he did in Greek. They were members of native elites under the domination of Macedonian overlords; in their writings we can see suggestions that they collaborated in the foreign rule of their lands, but at the same time we see them advocating for their cultures.

Do you think the Ancient Greek approach to history has any influence on historiography today? In some ways the influence of colonizing Britain and the English language is a similar case. Gmirkin supposes that Berossus exclusively based his story of creation on Enuma Elish pp.

An interview with John Dillery, author of Clio’s Other Sons: Berossus and Manetho

The primary literary evidence for this late dating comes from two Hellenistic historians, Berossus and Manetho, whom Gmirkin identifies as major figures of influence in the production of the Pentateuch.

Hopefully, they will see that humanity is united by common problems and the attempts at solving them, but that the way the problems are defined and the attempted solutions bear the hallmarks of the worlds that produce them.

Berossus’ achievement amnetho be seen in terms of how he combined the Hellenistic methods of historiography and Mesopotamian accounts to form a unique composite. Retrieved from ” https: Gmirkin analyzes common themes expulsion, conquest, slavery between Manetho and Exodus, but not the biblical text itself.


Reversal of sequence, however, is one way ancient authors marked their reliance on literary sources e. I should add here that I do not think there was just one Greek approach to history; the Greeks practiced all sorts of approaches; they also happened to maneyho the one exemplified by the likes of Herodotus, Thucydides, and Polybius.

Jewish and Christian references to Berossus probably had a different source, either Alexander Polyhistor c. How do you think this affects what modern historians write about anr history?

Berossus – Wikipedia

From Berossus’ genealogy, it is clear he had access to king-lists in compiling this section of Historyparticularly manehto the kings before the Flood, and from the 7th century BC with Senakheirimos Sennacheribwho ruled both Assyria and Babylon.

In my book I try to work out some of the implications of my view of Berossus and Manetho by looking at the ways people treat the issues of curating the past in pre- and post-colonial India.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. On the one hand, Dillery is too sweeping in his generalizations about hybrid beings in Greek mythology. Pure history writing per se was not a Babylonian concern, and Josephus testifies to Berossus’ reputation as an astrologer. In composing his history, Berossus drew on the mythic-historiographical tradition of Mesopotamia, and specifically on such well known texts as the creation myth Enuma ElishAtrahasisand the king lists, which provided the point of departure and conceptual framework for a universal history.

Both Hyksos and Israelites were foreigners in Egypt, described as shepherds, expelled by the Egyptians and settled in Jerusalem pp. Dillery rightly stresses the Mesopotamian pedigree of such a fish-man sage known as apkallu in Akkadian. I was interested in a more positive set of questions: A philosopher brings with him the sacred words of Hellenic wisdom from the very heart of old Greece indeed, its navel: This is similar to another Babylonian history, Chronicle of Nabonidus as well as to the Hebrew Bibleand differs from the rationalistic accounts of other Greek historians like Thucydides.


Indeed, this was more than one would suspect a Babylonian would or could do.

Haubold and one on Maneetho by J. Mnetho is another name for the Oracle at Delphi and transfers them, shining like a beacon, into the fastness of the Hindu Kush. University of Michigan Press What we have of ancient Mesopotamian myth is somewhat comparable with Berossus, though the exact integrity with which he transmitted his sources is unknown because much of the literature of Mesopotamia has not survived.

For antecedents of this argument, see P.

Clio’s Other Sons

Where do you start? These were in fact an elaborate forgery. Thus, what little of Berossus remains is very fragmentary and indirect. That Hellenization means not, or not just, the use of ancient Greek and Greek culture, but that the Anc language and the culture that produced it became things to think with in the ancient world more broadly.

According to Vitruvius’s work de Architecturahe relocated eventually to the island of Kos off the coast of Asia Minor and established a school of astrology there [6] by the patronage of the king of Egypt.