I am thinking of making a Quenya course for English speakers. Although it’ll take me a while to consider the benefits and disadvantages, I have a pretty good. QUENYA Una mujer se paró enfrente de Esbelia. –¡Quiubo, mami! Esbelia – Mucho gusto, repitió Quenya. De modo que Suleica debería aprender de mí.

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Norwegian – various translators qudnya finally rendered much of my material into my native tongue I have to write for an international audience myself! Real languages have more history behind their development than fictional languages so I don’t see why Duo wouldn’t work for Quenya but does for the multitude of real-world languages it offers.

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I’m coming to agree with you that Duolingo is not the place to learn “real” Elvish either Quenya, or Sindarin, let alone Telarin, Nandorin, etc. I have invariably granted permission for such translations to be made, as long as I am recognized as the author.

First, take a look at http: To really understand and parse the development of Quenya over Tolkien’s lifetime takes a careful study of the external history of the language, which is aprendef Duolingo is ill-suited to perform, in my opinion.

I can even say “Greetings” in Entish! Really cool apgender, I love how you studied it so intensively! Noldoaran 16 6 2. Didier Willis’ Sindarin vocabularies – download his remarkable Sindarin dictionary here!

So should the Duolingo course follow one example or the other? My Quenya course has since been translated into Polish by Vendis and Elanor from the Elendili Forum ; their Polish version can be found here. Let’s make this course happen! Take Norwegian as an example, they started with a Norwegian course and later specified that they were teaching Bokmal, which is a dialect or a specific way of writing the language.

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Mellonath Daeron – the Language Guild of the Forodrim. Index to the Etymologies by English glosses – where do you find the word you so desperately need? As for my Quenya aprendre, I quenyw there now exist several Spanish translations; here is one by Antonio Palomino. I already have been learning them on other websites. I think course creators should choose the most popular resource, and other important resources should be treated as dialects. Parma Eldalamberon is the qudnya major journal about Tolkein’s languages and is also very good, although the website is frustratingly terrible and out of date.


Spanish – translated by various translators; the most complete and up-to-date non-English version. Of course it would still be difficult to choose the source. Indeed, if the course were based on David Salo’s Sindarin that is used in the movies, I would have to decry it as something wholly different from Tolkien’s Sindarin. I have been learning Quenya for years, but I must say I struggle quena there are not many people to practice with.

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I get tired of being the bearer of bad news. Brazilian Portuguese – various articles as well as my Quenya course, which the Brazilians have also published as a book concerning that publication, see this site.

And refrain from opening it again. Duolingo should wait until it already teaches Finnish and Welsh, and until it has the permission of the Tolkien Estate see http: I would also point people to another quote from the link above: Given the layers of development in Tolkien’s ideas and within the internal history, it seems like the approach most true to his work is in written compositions that pay attention to those contexts. I still think it would be amazing but I am not sure that I trust myself with the burden.

Which means what, exactly? For others reading this discussion – I do encourage you to check out the sites Eard linked to in other comments.

Real languages have internal history; they have changed over time but you can learn the modern form apreneer the language. They give the option to explain words, so I think they could explain it as they teach it.


Delta 25 12 12 8 8 7 5 4. Qyenya Of the Tongues of Arda, the invented world of J. I hope somebody is able to make this into an actual course soon. Like all artificial languages from a fictional source, the language itself focuses on concepts from the realm it comes from – not things from our world and everyday life.

And although quenga vocabulary is limiting I haven’t counted but I would estimate between verified wordsthis can actually be an advantage to the Duo course. But I’m just saying. Wulfgarcyng 15 12 3 3 2.

Look how fast Valyrian came up, it wasn’t even in beta not to mention finished last week, and a few weeks before that wasn’t even being made! Which brings up the point of why it would be so difficult perhaps not impossible, but extremely tricky to create a Duolingo course on Quenya. I know there are some courses also available on the internet 20 years ago even I queya a webpage where we had some basicsbut a Duo quwnya is a Duo course – best way to learn.

It is difficult to interpret Quenya because it was always a work in progress. As for Ryszard’s comprehensive Sindarin Dictionary, you can read about it quenja. I think that would be great, I know several guys who might be interested in such a parender, and I suppose there are many more – Tolkien’s fans are numerous Indeed, the pronouns in Quenya tend to be quite slippery and Tolkien changed his mind about them and many other things just about every time he sat down to write something!